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Opinion | What Happens When You Stop Being a Superpower? - The New York Times

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As authoritarian nations like China and Russia try to assert their power, President Biden has said the United States is fighting a global battle to save democracy. So why is America building relationships with countries that are far from democratic utopias?

On this episode of “Matter of Opinion,” the hosts talk about global realignment with sometimes imperfect allies and how risky this moment could be.

(A full transcript of the episode will be available midday on the Times website.)

Illustration by The New York Times; photograph by BAY ISMOYO/Getty

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“Matter of Opinion” was produced this week by Sophia Alvarez Boyd, Phoebe Lett and Derek Arthur. It was edited by Stephanie Joyce. Mixing by Pat McCusker and Carole Sabouraud. Original music by Isaac Jones, Efim Shapiro, Carol Sabouraud, Sonia Herrero and Pat McCusker. Our fact-checking team includes Kate Sinclair, Mary Marge Locker and Michelle Harris. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta and Kristina Samulewski. Our executive producer is Annie-Rose Strasser.

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